I dont think we should be sitting here telling each other how bad we all are at our jobs! I hold a BMA (hangar version of RMA for those not in the know!) and i see some pretty scary things from other BMAs i work alongside. The fact is there are good and bad people doing the same jobs all over the world, in all industries. Everyone loves to moan about how little they get paid and how bad everything is at work, but its not that bad at all really is it? If it was, and you weren`t just moaning for the sake of it, you`d leave and do something else, if you really were truly unhappy. What i really want to know though is: if every engineer is so unhappy with everything, why do we never go on strike. Cabin crew do, flight crew threaten to if the winds blowing in the wrong direction! If we really wanted the top monkeys to see how important engineers were, we`d just not go to work. but we don`t. we keep turning up every day, allowing things to happen around us, and then moaning when we dont like the results. Typical british mentality im afraid, and it`ll never change.