Freeride - so you are not SAR then - if you are then say so, if not then stop stirring on a subject you know little about
Crab, you obviously get very upset by any form of disagreement (maybe the QHI in you?) and so I will refrain from "stirring" anymore so as not to dent your delicate SAR God ego! Perhaps you are better suited to the Tiger thread where you also seem to have made quite a mark - grhhhhhhhh.....