What exactly do you mean, does not know one end of a spanner blah blah? Mechanical aptitude I have. I do however also have management ability / experience. All I am trying to find out is what sort of money I could expect to be paid as a graduate engineer working for a major airline / MOH contractor. I have looked in the back of Flight (to which I have subscribed as a paying punter for 4 years), if anyone could suggest anywhere else I could look do tell. If it is so poor, why do people still a) do it and b) want to do it?