http://www.passur.com/sites.htm
If you follow this link and then choose kjfk (as the airport you want to monitor - you’ll need to type it in to your address bar for it to work) then you will see that the PASSUR feed I referred to [in the very first post! ], in conjunction with ATC transmissions on a scanner/current internet source, “would (IF the PASSUR feed WERE LIVE) give a very comprehensive picture of a/c movements”
***I choose 80% (Lon More as a % of what data is considered worthy of note…as the only thing missing in PASSUR feeds are: destination and carrier. But I respect your assessment that compared to yourselves (ATCOs) a spotter can only get a picture of around 50% ‘the real picture’. ( I would suggest even lower!) Which without the implementation of widespread real time telemetry is rather like a pilot saying that an ATCO only knows 50% of what his aircraft is doing. The point in fact regarding ratios is whilst you wouldn’t care what his N1 ratings or fuel status were at V1…those who tune into PASSUR don’t care if someone working the AMA has to ‘prompt’ the tower (insert seemingly ‘behind-the scenes’ scenario here)…..***
But getting back to the discussion, if the PASSUR feed was in real time then the compromise in safety(= security; just for you SATCO) of that flight would increase only nominally. I don’t want more information about the a/c (enough is widely broadcast to make a very informed assessments already) I am just suggesting why delaying the information that is already provided is lagged by a ‘specified’ period which therefore is a pointless security measure (is it not?)
The moving map in the back of your headrest provides exactly the same information which I’m suggesting might be published online to avid plane spotters so the crux of the original question was why this same info cannot be broadcast on the net in the same format.
But don’t bother, Like the majority of you – I don’t care anymore; let the yanks take the lead again while we busy ourselves with infighting……..
>Rodan: I was humouring Lon More’s post (10/5/05 13.52)
>BD: I began the discussion with your mother’s philosophy in mind. (not a trace of discontent in my voice I believe???) Elucidating on your analogy, I expected flies but, you can imagine my upset when I realised (dripping in honey) that I interrupted a field of angry hornets with more bravado than brains…
>Mr More: I obviously remind you of yourself and although I’m charmed and thank you for the entertainment….(you’re obviously as blissfully ignorant as to the answers as I am on this which is nothing to be ashamed of; it appears nobody knows. ATCOs aren’t trained lawyers after all and there is absolutely no correlation between the legislature and whether an ATCO (or any other profession) feels infringed upon by progress and the changing world around us.
TS> wtf are you on about?
I just wanted to find out why we’re trailing in the wake of the yanks on this issue but forgive me; I have been short-sighted.
After analysis of more than a few responses from my fellow Brits, irrespective of any legally preventative legislation (which no-one can actually name/state with regard to definitive references and government bills), at last it’s dawned on me what really hinders such developments in the aeronautical industry of this country.
I’ll write to the CAA using the same ‘original’ question safe in the knowledge that a reply cosseting more professional explanations and reasons will shed more light on the matter.
001 (requesting higher to leave the turbulence below)
SUBJECT DROPPED
...001 rolls off into the setting sun musing at the viability of a PP(FACT)Ne, maybe in America?