Spanners, Re your 24th May response above, where you state that the CAA will not compromise our standards: Surely the fact that maintenance orgs will be able to examine JAR66 licence candidates in house under JAR147 is in itself a massive compromise. You only have to consider the intense level of maintenance violations of varying severity going on all around to realize that JAR66/147 is going to be equally abused by the corrupt managers & their supporting A & B licenced yes men. As Ali has pointed out, there is a frenzy of authorisations being falsly acheived to beat the June 01 deadline for GF rights. PER book signatories are mostly people who could not care less what they sign, and have only taken this responsibility because it has been forced as part of a pay deal. I have seen people who have 5+ years experience recently being shown their responsibilities in company procedures...not to enable them to do their job correctly, as they should have been all this time, but simply to get them through the oral exam which forms part of their limited CRS authorisation neccessary for GF rights as a potential A licence holder. The whole system is already a proven farce before the deadline has passed. As for bringing firm evidence to the attn of the CAA, in the usual tradition 99% of the violations go unreported because of fear of losing our jobs, promotion prospects, overtime etc. The same goes for your assumption that the system works and will detect any shortfalls...if it had our company would have been closed down long ago. Additionally there is little encouragement to report such matters as the violaters get let off with a slapped wrist. (Ref the CAA newsletter issue 3 where an engineer who issued a CRS by FAX without ever seeing the job nearly lost his licence). Why was he not made an example of for god sake? I cannot beleive that the CAA, who tell us their job is to improve flight safety, are allowing JAR66 to shape up this way. It does seem they are doing it to offset the current worldwide shortage of engineers. Basically we pay the CAA fees to hold a licence and up to now have had little support in upholding standards. Now we are being stitched up by them and left at the mercy of the maintenance orgs dodgy managers.