I don't wish to appear millitant but by reading all the post here it is obvious why we never get anywhere. Most companies rely on the "Divide and Conquer" style of management because they know we never stick together. Its unfortunate that what makes us engineers in the first place also proves to be our downfall. We are all "Lets get the job done" and work our way around the problems. Also if truth be known we all enjoy chosen vocation. If you take a look at our european counterparts they all stick together and have Unions. They don't work on top of or out of the back of vans and enjoy on the most part good rest facilities. In this counrty some companies still expect engineers to furnish their crew rooms with what is found in skips or chucked out of the offices.In Europe they arrive at work in their civies and get changed in a locker room with shower areas that they can use before they go home.
Redtail used KLM as an example, they achieved something why not UK engineers !
By the way Blacksheep, the new time limits for items in the MEL's have been added because of the JAR OPS regs comming into force in or around september this year.
