With regard to the pay offer a few years ago and the rather biased percentage rise between Turboprop and Jet. Well I think most Dash drivers accepted the offer as at the time we were being asked to fly an aircraft with 28 seats more than the "other" jet that we had (CRJ) and were also starting to fly into Europe. It seemed a little old hat to say a turbo guy got less cos they flew slower, smaller, lighter blah blah blah. So I don't think it was two fingers up at the 146 guys but a case of hang on guys, why are you (CRJ) being paid more than us for generally, a very similar responsibility. It is unfortunate that the CRJ was put in the same category as the 146. Maybe we should have done it all on amount of seats, that would have been fairer.