Thanks Giles and everyone else, hopefully the two threads will soon be merged so all responses can be seen together.
For future purposes, we are trying to get a hold established on route for the UN867 traffic via AKIKI about 15 miles before KATHY, but it will be used depending on the danger area activity we have under that route. We are also looking into ammending the STARs from the south so that when we need you via ORIST the appropriate routing will be given by Brest Control in the form of a STAR so again the finger tapping into the FMS will be cut out.
At Swanwick when we move you over to BEWLI we have to enter a Bewli Diversion to get the correct indications from the computer and electronic details to the relevent sectors, if we could say to yourselves BEWLI DIVERSION TO HOLD and have that procedure published then I can see how much time that could save and know that you have the full procedure entered. Indirect entries into BEWLI aren't good for us so a routing via TARAN is needed just so we know exactly when you are going to turn and can put you on headings appropriate to this against the departures routing out via GIBSO or get inbounds to other airfields that are not going to hold through your level.
Finally, ironically I was giving OCTs!!!! There always has to be a first, I was demonstrating to a student at the time
Keep the replies coming, everything so far will be taken to the working group and hopefully we'll get en-route holding "slightly" less complex.
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