Aussie Andy - no apology necessary. It is good to get all kinds of comments, especially from those with more experience. I am not a low time pilot nor do I have a vast experience (only about 5000hrs) compared to many so I try to learn from others rather than make all the mistakes myself. By and large the UK controllers are an excellent bunch who treat everyone with the help,courtesy and understanding expected. Just a very very small few forget they are in a cosy office and the pilot is in an environment that is easy to get into difficulty occasionaly.