if you're looking at the aussie ATPL issue followed by paper chasing the NZ one, then hurry up fellas.
NZCAA is looking at trying to close that "loophole" (their words)
they also reckon CASA is looking at introducing a ATPL flight test.
could be scare mongering, the CAA guy rarely was a friendly chap ....as always, grain of salt stuff.
either way, best not dilly-dally.