fair comment Pat - I think the most important thing I saw was the on Diamond Aircraft stand and the piston engine that can run on Diesel or Avtur - that's what GA needs - desperately ! Kind of still don't get the Bentley bit, sold or not ! The A109 was on display was flown to the car park and then pushed through the doors ! The other helis were low loaded from local fields with their blades removed - I presume you're refering the 8k to the FW's?