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Old 28th March 2005 | 01:37
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Blip
 
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4dogs. Thanks for the input.

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Along the lines of what Winston said, just imagine the scenario when you are taking-off from the same runway. If your company has published a special procedure to follow in the event of an engnie failure during the take-off, follow that procedure.

NO, NO, NO - unless you can position the aeroplane within the confines of the take-off splay some 2 km away (for CAO 20.7.1B within 76.2m or 90m either side of centreline at the end of the TODA) given crosswind, yaw, control issues etc then the special departure procedure (SDP) is potentially very unsafe. You need to consider more broadly protected airspace that applies to where you are commencing your go-round.
Well what other choices do I really have 4dogs?
If I'm rejecting the landing (going-around at very low level and I'm lined up with the runway) what else am I going to do other than track the runway centreline as best I can (it's not too difficult with a look out the window and a track box on my HSI.) and then go from there.

I mean anything I do from that position is potentially unsafe because as you have admitted, the scenario is not considered during the design of the approach and yet it is so obviously an issue that needs to be considered by the pilot before commencing the approach.

Trying to regain the published missed approach tracking AND minimum climb profile is surely MORE dangerous than what I propose.

Regarding protected airspace around the airport, what do I have to choose from?

I've got:

a) a highly detailed surveyed area commencing from the departure end of the runway expanding as you say from 90 metres either side of the runway centreline at around 7 degrees either side as per CAO 20.7.1B,
b) circling minima inside the circling area,
c)MSA

Now if I am going-around at 100ft, 50ft, 10ft AGL, and lined up with the runway, initially the surveyed area ahead of me will offer me the best protection, then if I am lucky, I might reach the circling minima while still inside the circling area. Fine. If I am still visual AND can maintain the aircraft inside the circling area I can level off and try another circling approach. If that doesn't appeal to me, I can continue the CAO 20.7.1B tracking until I reach the MSA or Radar LSALT.

NO, NO, NO - unless you can position the aeroplane within the confines of the take-off splay some 2 km away (for CAO 20.7.1B within 76.2m or 90m either side of centreline at the end of the TODA)...
Well I know that the survey was done with the takeoff in mind however I can't see a better option. If I turn, I'm turning into the unknown, and reducing my climb performance. I might be in the circling area but so what? I'm so much below the circling minima that... I hardly need to finish this sentance.

4dogs I'd appreciate you telling me what you consider to be the safest option following a low lever go-around.

Thankyou.

Last edited by Blip; 28th March 2005 at 11:19.
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