Dear snake
“Regarding the AOA, the 'squeaky clean' comment related to the view being promoted on this forum, that failure to reach a negotiated settlement was all the fault of the company. This is patently untrue.”
Really! Then tell us why the company have not, at any time in the last 8 years, negotiated in good faith. On every occasion they have walked out and unilaterally imposed their wishes upon a bewildered pilot body. This time was just another farce. Company negotiators walked straight out of the meeting into a pre-planned press conference and shortly thereafter fired 53 pilots and wet leased several aircraft. I suppose it was the AOA who pre-planned all this. Remember a work to rule was all that was threatened. The requirement to wet lease was not established and if management had held their fire to assess the situation they could have saved several hundred million dollars. Patently true!
“My lack of 'confidence' in the union stems form a belief (not shared by others here I know) that they dreadfully underestimated company and shareholder resolve this time round. I don't blame ND but a 'professional' (JF) should have twigged. “
On the contrary. The fact is the company have woefully misread the resolve of the pilot body this time around. Resolve was very firm prior to the disastrous decision to terminate, without any stated reason, 49 pilots. Now there are previously anti union pilots firmly in the AOA camp. Well done snake, you have managed to strengthen the union. Over 1300 letters rejecting the company offer and yet TT still says the pilots have accepted it. Snake tell me who is in touch with reality here.
”Exchange of data (to those of us not directly involved) does SEEM like a nonsense. Surely every member logs their hours? The AOA therefore must have data on hours worked? Have I missed the point? “
Of course you have. If it is nonsense then why not just give the data to the AOA? If the pilots were to send individual data for AOA compilation you know, just as well as everyone else, that the company would refuse to accept any conclusions drawn because they were derived from unverified data. So quite simply snake give the AOA the data and let us get back to the negotiating table.
“Re pre conditions, I thought re-instatement
was also a pre condition? This will be major
problem. They are not wanted in the organisation and I see this as a huge stumbling block.”
Once again snake you are totally wrong (obviously believe what TT tells you). The only requirement that has to be met prior to calling off LIA and returning to negotiation is the provision of the data. Of course re-instatement is a requirement for a final settlement, as any decent human being would realise.
I am sorry you are so out of touch snake. However, I would imagine you are no different to the other armchair warriors who are subjected to misinformation and propaganda every single day.
Regards
D
[ 10 August 2001: Message edited by: Dismayed ]
[ 10 August 2001: Message edited by: Dismayed ]