I have not used M$IE since the day I found Netscape many years ago and found how fast a browser could be. Last week I downloaded the latest, Netscape 8 Beta, based on Mozilla. I have also downloaded the Thunderbird Email package, and so far (touch wood as they say) no problems at all. I have not yet found a site that NS8 will not open, but then if the site designers cannot be arsed to make it compatable, do I really want to read it anyway...