Max_Cont. .The point has already been made about the difference when buying a car and Purchasing a seat on a charter flight. A car you can try. Nothing to do with the difference between similar cars and so called extras. Its a case of what you can try before you buy, and I cant try out the aircraft I am going on holiday in. . .As for when I worked for Brits it was in the 80s. I left about a year after the first B767 came into service. Prior to that I worked for Laker and I can tell you the seats on Lakers aircraft were not as tight as Brits. After I left Brits I worked in Customer support for British Aerospace on the 146/RJ, and yes I was spoilt. I travelled most places longhaul in Business class. However it doesnt detract from the arguement that airlines have a duty to their customers, who have no choice in the airline that carries them on holiday, to give them a half comfortable flight not one they dread.. . <img src="frown.gif" border="0"> <img src="frown.gif" border="0"> <img src="frown.gif" border="0"> <img src="frown.gif" border="0">