DFC was quiet because like most other people, one has to work from time to time. However, there has been no postings relevant to the debate so why should there be a response.
With an aircraft down off the West of Scotland, perhaps alerting action will be reviewed as part of the investigation although it appears from news reports that in this case the flight was departing the zone.
I must however point out an error regarding the point previously where I said;
Flight from Welshpool to Exeter via BRI - File Welshpool to Bristol (Alternate Exeter) on contacting Bristol ATC announce diversion to Exeter. In that case should we fail to turn up at the Bristol zone Bristol will start alerting action and later if we fail to turn up at Exeter, Exeter will start alerting action.........thus we have the required alerting action normally expected
It has been pointed out to us that there is no requirement to go to such drastic measures and that such measures are not appropriate if one knows in advance that a diversion "may be a posibility for operational reasons" i.e. not weather etc.
The way to correctly do the above is to file a flight plan with a RIF in item 18.
This I am told will acheive the exact same result i.e. Bristol will be required to keep and act on the flight plan until such time as they are told that the destination is changed to Exeter and then Exeter will have and act on the revised flight plan. The diference being that Exeter will not be required to inform the arrival of a diversion as per the diversion procedures.
Seems that there may be times in the UK when we have a flight plan with several RIFs when hoping from zone to zone looking for transits!
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squibbler,
A zone infringement is a zone transit without the required ATC clearance is it not?
To avoid infringements, always get an ATC clearance before entering and to get an ATC cleaarance, file a flight plan or abreviated plan as per the AIP!
Regards,
DFC
Flyin\'Dutch,
Being P1 of a Maule or a B757 makes little difference to the argument that international alerting standards need to be followed for the safety of us all.
Same as a surgeon and a GP debating the requirements to wash one\'s hands to avoid passing on MRSA.............would you like the Surgeon discounting your argument simply cause you are a mere GP?
No. So I won\'t either if you ever put one forward.
Regards,
DFC