Kubota, you give me and my ilk too much credit. I believe management started ASL and the AOA let it happen. Two things that should never have happened, but did. You can't turn back the clock, neither can I. It amazes me that you would rather have ASL revenge than a decent contract. As long as management knows this, they will continue serving up appetizers for you to choke on. The enemy isn't in the freighter cockpits.