I'm new to this game guys so maybe I pressed the wrong button and started a new thread which I did not mean to do, it must have made no sense at all to the 863 people who viewed it. What I was saying was that I have now heard that the head honch at the company starting Air Tigra has other business interests in the Papa Oscar Romeo November direction, and what a site it is. Talk about "form", the stars assets are like a dead-heat in an airship race. This seems to fit as part of a bigger picture that is really tacky and my experience bears this out. Sad or what?