Flight Detent,. .. .On exactly which of the following points was I wrong……. .. .You are a co-pilot with Air Atlanta. .. .The Captain makes fuel decisions not you (thankfully). .. .You are flogging a knackered old –200 on Haj charters. .. .Modern, high performance, longhaul aircraft often get stuck under “too heavy” 747s. .. .Your job allows you to imaging an extra 2 inches on your willy. .. .Almost all the PPRuners on this thread consider you to be a complete tosser. .. .I have no problem with B747 “drivers” or any other pilots – you started this with your ridiculous knob enhancing desire to rid the skies of anything not as big as yours.. .. .The reason why you claim "most of us missed the point" is because you have no point to make (other than the fact you have an enormous knob). .. .Cheers, Eicas (“Captain” to you).. . . . <small>[ 21 March 2002, 14:07: Message edited by: Captain Eicas ]</small>