Thanks for the replies and on an aside I have a number of recollections of flying on BA VC10 pax of course. I also flew with VJ 'Gulf Air' as security staff in the 70's. I recall two others as well the Oman VC10 at Brooklands and also a white/red cheet lines of the United Arab Emirates. I believe VJ went to the RAF what was the afte of the UAE a/c.