Vector-As much as a trap as not knowing the 'Standard' descent levels, assuming an optimum descent path(ie no early levels) and then finding that you are far too high and cannot comply with the early descent restriction.. . When I said publish the early descent profiles, I do not mean incorporate into the FMS software as a Hard Instruction, just publish it so that those levels can be seen on the relevant Jeppesen/Aerad charts that most pilots use! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" />