Hades - In the BA Jump seat policy (the one that got revised post 11/9) ATC and ATC students are welcome! (I admit administration may be a different matter). .. .Vector-pushin - Use the old stuff - If you tell us to 'maintain programmed profile', you will find that when we get to Tiger, we will stop descent (as that is when the profile does until it needs to descend again for the next restriction or even the runway!) and not maintain the 500'/min descent as required by the ANO.