Thanks to all. The restrictions do seem to be the worst thing for many people outside of NERC, and yes, they have gone on (and will continue to go on) for a lot more than the 10 days you were promised. Sorry, but please remember those promises were not made by the operational ATCOs and ATSAs who are doing their darndest to get are many a/c thru the system as is safely possible.. .. .I was wondering how people are finding trying to co-ordinate with LACC Swanwick? The system is fairly inflexible, and true experience with it can be measured in terms of 30 days, not the 30 years worth built up at LATCC.. .. .Rgds BEX.