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Old 30th January 2005 | 22:41
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NoseGear
 
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From: All over the show like a madwomans crap
Ms. Turret, I see you have started another thread using some very unsubtle scaremongering about failed airlines. Why, I wonder, would such a "stable, profitable" airline feel the need to do that? Must be getting hot in the kitchen with all these multiple threads discussing the conditions, or lack thereof, at Ryanair?

Pilots allowed to associate with whomever they like eh? How do you then explain the firing of 3 pilots for trying to start a pilots collective at Ryanair then? Freedom? Hardly.

As for being wrong, how wrong am I about these facts?

1) Start off paying 50STL just to register online pilot application
2) 200STL for the "privilege" of attending an interview
3) 30,000 approx for type rating
4) No pay whilst under line training
5) No accomodation while away from home base on line training
6) Pay for your own uniforms
7) Bring your own water (really, that is sad)
8) Bring your own food, coffee etc
9) 2 days to change base, on your rostered days off no less
10) Fired at anytime, no recourse, your out, pay your bond, 30K please.

I happily stand to be corrected, but any aspiring applicants should know the truth of their conditions before starting out with a company that so blatanly takes liberties with naive and desperate staff.

You continually bag unions as the cause of all evil (still waiting on that apology mate) yet you happily overlook the fact that poor management is the overriding factor in most airlines closing down. Pilots are far more committed to the survival of an airline than management, for the simple reason pilots skills are less transferable, unlike those of management who can change industries quite easily. Pilots are generally in it for the long haul, if the conditions are right, but when things go tits up, its the pilots left high and dry, while the high payed management take the golden parachute and leave richer than they arrived.

I would like some factual, straight answers, not the gobblygook you spew forth, and do try to avoid the name calling and side-stepping of answers that, quite honestly, you've made an art-form of.

And, the best thing you could do, is APOLOGISE for the comment you made. Be a man, admit that was too far.

Nosey
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