hi temps ,sorry i did not intend to put you down, i just gave you a view from "outside the box" if you like and how we are viewed by others who generally know very little of what being a licensed engineer is all about, and who at times i would dearly love to put in the position of being on their own at three am ,pouring with rain, and having to make decisions which could risk the lives of hundreds of people and millions of quids worth of aircraft( i know im being a bit melodramatic but you get my drift) and your not even a real engineer!