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Old 11th Jan 2005, 21:42
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Yes Solenta ATR crew have been based in Abidjan now for over a week. However, the majority of guys, in the region of 80%+ are still very unhappy with the way that the company has dealt with the whole situation and the so-called adequate measures that have been put in place. Management have clearly taken on the attitude of "if you don't like it, bear in mind that you are replacable" with a touch of "Africa is not for sissies" - right Rudeman?

This is a network of freespeach and therefore no facts should be hidden.

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"We just for info placed 3 x 1900D on contract in Afghanistan and Sierra Leone with unbelievable great crew.Guys that did not ask for more money."

Yes the crew is great on the 1900 pool. But so is the crew on the ATR fleet, we never hear any of this though... Further, one or two people may have hinted to have a "danger pay schedule" considered.

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"We have in ABJ as a company made sure that it is 100% safe to go back, the company also lost serious money and had to revamp the crew house all brand new now". "The house will be secured and armed guards are now at the house 24/7"

The crew is still asking for a risk analysis that has been done by management to make sure that all is safe and back to normal again. We are convinced none of this exists. Furthermore, embassies of Spain, Germany and the U.S.A have advised that the situation is not stable. Today Thabo Mbeki was heard on BBC Radio, after the AU summit in LBV to say that he does not recommend any South African go back into the Ivory Coast. As far as "armed" guards - Rudeman, do you mean security guards armed with battons and cuffs? We aint seen any armed guards yet. Rudeman and Freightboss, please enlighten us as to how you determined that things are 100% safe again for us? I'm sensing some dejavu back to November 2004...

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"A complete security solution with evac plans will be in place no later than the end of Jan by Securicor, yes the same guys that support the Bulls."

What about the evacuation plan? To double up on Airforce 1's question, how can you send the crew back into into ABJ before a evac plan is in place? It's very reassuring to know (for the 100th time) that Securicor guys are Bulls supporters - that'll keep us safe when the next raid comes through...

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"Further to this we have confirmed that are crew are all medically covered, we have confirmation from Workmans compensation that they will cover the crew for accidents/incidents and death or injury in all cases and we also have DHL life cover for all our crews. Show me any other comany at present that cover their crew on their insurance."

Rudeman - the crew have asked on a few occasions for hardcopies of this confirmation to be given to all. So far, no crew member has received a booklet outlining the terms and conditions of the policies you speak of - Lifecover and medical. How can you expect the crew to accept this coverage without knowing what the terms and conditions are? Funny, Dennis and Jankelow will not cover for Ivory Coast. This is their reply to a request for a life insurance quote: "Please note that as discussed we were unable to obtain a quotation including cover in the Ivory Coast as the Underwriter will not quote on the area due to: "the continuing volatility and potential for further violence". Please find attached Personal Accident Insurance quotation excluding the Ivory Coast"

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"Our crew are happy this is a good company except for the 3/4 negative guys on this site but I guess they will die negative."

Perhaps if you understood the extent to which the guys who were there were affected, you wouldn't even post this on PPrune. But I guess that is hard when you are used to the safety and comfort of your nice airconditioned office in Fourways (MILES AWAY FROM WHERE THE MONEY IS MADE).

"Africa is not for sissies..."
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