FZ U brought it up - what's Moritz doing now ?. .. .He's not the kind of guy to not do something... My guess is watch this space and where he's flying.. .. .Personal opinion the CCP/LX guys are less wrong, but its one of those 'reality strikes' situations as Hunter says - do what the PAX want - and with a smile - and don't rock the boat or their schedules - coz this time there definately won't be double dipping at Hunter's or my tax money - sorry kids.. .. .PS. Yes Swiss needs the feeder PAX, but don't forget current type ratings also - if U drive an S2K never mind seniority, when push comes to shove, out will be the lowest in seniority in the S2K club - U can't just move a 330/340 or an MD11 driver across whatever rules Berne is willing to invent or bend (not saying that perhaps an MD11 (or 330/340) guy (gal) can't learn fast, just that there would be holes that can't immediately be legally and acceptably filled overnight - and the visibility of not flying - would be just too much to keep the new shop alive).. .. .All that says I guess is that the MS9/80 drivers are those really at risk - lose rather than cross train !! Sure, but that has been clearly on the cards since October and day 1 of 26/26 in all the realists minds - the risk there I would have thought is that more leave than are needed to operate - if they are being street smart and looking after No.1 first.. .--------------------------------------------------------. .just an opinion - but watch out - the vultures are circling!