</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">It seems to me the LX pilots are the big winners. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">If it´s really such a good deal for LX, why haven´t we signed it then ? If it´s really such a bad deal for SR, why DID they sign it ? In the AP/LX managment proposal, LX pilots end up at the bottom of the seniority list, and get a small pay increase while SR pilots take a large pay cut, but end up on top of the seniority list. What good is a small pay increase if : you´re at the bottom of the seniority list and you´ll be the first one out if Swiss does not fly as planned ? Trust me, it won´t fly, because it´s too big for Switzerland and the legal risks (liability for SAir Group debts) are substantial. The ex-SR pilot take a +- 30 % paycut, BUT will get back a substantial part of that if Swiss makes money on 2004/5. With other words : if it goes wrong, then LX pilots get fired and ex-SR pilots stay where they are, it it goes right then SR pilots get a pay raise for their hard work ! Who is winner here ? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="mad.gif" /> . .. . </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica"> Of course you forgot to mention that 400 SR pilots were already dimissed as the SR fleet got downsized.. . </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Who went bankrupt again ? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="rolleyes.gif" /> . .. . </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica"> Mr. Häderli should start to think with his brain instead of his dick and he certainly should start representing his own members instead of only working for his megalomania to grow... </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">First of all, your language is not what I expect from a professional pilot. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="rolleyes.gif" /> . .Second, most members want the CCP to go ahead with the present course, which was quite clear when attending the base meetings of last week. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="tongue.gif" />