Its a load of complete B*llo**s, and is opposed not only by atcos on the coal face but the majority of our own atc srg inspectors.. .Both I and several of my colleagues have been asked when using the "taxi to holding position...", "well - do you want me to hold position or taxi?".. .Fortunately you can still use the phraseology "taxi to (loctaion)", and I and many of my colleagues will use this, refusing to use the new phraseology above.. . <img src="mad.gif" border="0"> Too many new procedures are bought in by dinasours who have been away from operational positions for too long, without consulting the pilots and atcos who have to contend with this rubbish. <img src="mad.gif" border="0"> . .So there <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">