Mr Simple no but I did now a JC at Binbrook in 1985-8. Speaking of happy days at Waddington do you remember the Lightning that ended up at Swinderby?. .Thanks for the replies I think it is part and parcel of the weather we are experiencing that pushes the system into similtaneous approaches and of course the real difficulties in managing this smoothly. We do not have landing data for the 319 onto 24 at BHX but I don't blame the smaller types from using it, very sensible given recent conditions.. .Best Wishes BP. .PS I watched the news that evening and saw someone very nearly crash at LBA