Missed the doughnuts doh!!. In reply to the original post from EG if we don't press our corner then some of our jet traffic would be waiting until kingdom come before getting a airways clearance. Many British airlines won't launch without a clearance as its in their SOP's and the foreign ones would probably go straight into CAS clearance or no. Many of the departures are on a slot time so we have no choice but to hassle for the clearance. With only 8 minutes between departure and entry to CAS NE of BKY in class G there is often more than enough to be done without having to try and obtain/pass airways joining clearance. By the way we are still user frendly to all types of aircraft same as 20 years ago so BL don't be put off you will be made welcome, enjoy your visit!!!