Just a post to say thanks to PickyPerkins for the detailed analysis of the wheel ruts in the photo of the berm. It was an excellent presentation which I think has led to some interesting further analysis about this plane's position as it passed over/through the berm.
Unlike some others, I think that this kind of theory exploration is an excellent topic for a forum such as this. There are some first class aviation brains who have contributed to this thread. It would not surprise me at all if The Canadian Transportation Safety Board's enquiry into this crash itself might develop some new lines of reasoning as a result of reading some of the informative posts on this thread.
Last edited by McGinty; 2nd Dec 2004 at 20:54.