Aircraft over DB at 4:00am?

[bekolblockage]

OK spleener

Of course you have control - but clearly some operators don't, otherwise we wouldn't be discussing it! We're not talking about aircraft on or close to the normal SID track, but those that carry out gross tracking errors.

Seeing as it needs to be spelt out to you:

1) Most departures between 11pm and 7 am use Rwy 07R

2) Between these hours ALL SIDs follow the same initial track for noise abatement

3) The first waypoint is PORPA

4) PORPA is designated as a "fly-over" waypoint (primarily because of terrain not DB)

5) Older Nav systems on (typically) older cargo aircraft cannot distinguish beween "fly-over" and "fly-by"

6) AP engagement before PORPA causes anticipation of turn and fly-by of PORPA

I couldn't give a stuff about the noise they make, but when one clips the top of the hill and ends up in my living room at 4 am its gunna upset my day.