monkfish, as much as I'd like to, I'm not gonna get into a slanging match with you, this isn't the place, and definately not the thread. However this also shows just how ATCO's do jump at anything and try to make something out of it, obviously in this case, ME. We all seem to get very tetchy on the smallest of things, just showing how stressed out we are all getting, not a good thing in our industry. Any little minor thing becomes a big arguement, be it work, pleasure, or just plain chat. We are all piddled off and want to take our stress out on the first thing that moves, why??? I think we all know why.