Hello CFI,. .. . </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica"> …the GFPT is often a waste of time and money, and can also cause the student to lose momentum in their training. All the elements have to be retested at the PPL test anyway.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">I always found that skipping the GFPT was a
really bad choice unless the student was undertaking an ‘accelerated’ course where the time between GFPT completion and the PPL flight test was minimal.. .. . </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica"> All the elements have to be retested at the PPL test anyway.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">It’s been a while since I did a PPL test but I always remember things like stalling and steep turns weren’t required for a re-test in the PPL flight test if a GFPT had been completed. If a student completes the GFPT then they don’t have to be burdened with the additional stress of difficult sequences after a long and tiresome nav – or doing a nav after disorientating and awkward sequences. . .. .Having to do exercises like stalling, steep turns and various sequences in the circuit at the completion of a PPL test would be pretty difficult after a long break of Navigation training. I’ve always found the GFPT and PPL to be like chalk and cheese.. .. .I always found it was nice to subject students to the ‘torture’ <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> of a GFPT test in preparation for other flight tests as well....and got them used to me (if I hadn't already flown with them).. .. . </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica"> Unless the instructor is behaving very irresponsibly</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">I have seen this time and time over. Junior instructors are normally those at fault…wanting to clock up navigation time for a Grade 2 rating or simply because they just want to get out of the local training area themselves <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="mad.gif" /> . .. .Sorry to pick your post there CFI but I have always tended to do things just a little bit different.. .. .One again
strewth, unless you’re a Grade 1 with a bit of instructional experience behind you, I would tend to suggest you work within the published guidelines in your Ops Manual training syllabus. Definitely don’t let your students fly a solo nav without having had completed the pre PPL (GFPT) syllabus for obvious reasons.