I wondered which NATS are we talking about?. Are we talking about the NATS where real people with shirts and ties beaver away enthusiastically for the good of the company, where everyone is "On board to exciting new destinations" and have careers and all that stuff, or are we talking about the "other NATS" of the operational resources who walk around in jeans and teeshirts, inhabit the operational areas at all times of the day and night when real people are in bed, who have to rely on vending machines for food when the real people are not there, who are obstructive, dogmatic, argumentative, and probably pick their noses in public as well!.