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Old 9th January 2002 | 04:42
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Hot 'n' High
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Fly-by-Wireless - I understood exactly what you meant!!!! However, in aviation, I do believe precision pays - including choice of words in many cases! Very picky I know but it is something I encourage in all my students. Attitude in flying is all important; just as important as practical flying skills etc. Anyway, it will be amazing for you when you take your supporters flying for the first time so keep up the hard work, enjoy the training, become a good pilot and then get yourself that bit of JAA paper off the CAA. Oh, by the way, there is no such thing as a "stupid question"! So don't ever let that put you off asking.

Noggin - Thanks for your latest post. Firstly, just a small point but the "Trial" lesson is actually called a "Trial lesson" (or any of the others I mentioned) for a good reason. The aim of the Lesson is to give the student a chance to "try" out (a) flying and (b) the school before spending a fortune on further, more detailed, training. I am sure Jeremy Pratt and AFE will forgive me if I quote the aim for Lesson 3 from his Flying Training book. He says the aim is ".. to give you a taste of being airborne and flying in a light aircraft. Although no formal instruction is given, ..." Page 3.1 of the PPL Flying Training book and, NO, I don't get a commission!!!!!!!!!! I'm sure Trevor Thom says the same thing - I just don't have his book to hand right now even though I use both sets at work - sorry about that Trevor! In reality, I do give my Trial Lesson students a good brief on basic Effects of Controls and Attitude Control, thus giving them some formal instruction. This gives them a taste of a Ground Brief as well as helping them enjoy the flight itself more. So, really, "Trial" is a perfect way to describe the "aim" of Lesson 3 and has been so for at least 10 years. Also, I always encourage serious students to "try" other schools if they are at all unsure - and most come straight back!

Regarding the 'misinterpretation' of the ANO, please direct me to the appropriate reference as I am always turning people away from coming along in the back! I would love to take people along on a training flight but I have yet to see evidence to change what I have always been told and understood. Mind you, even if/when I change my view, I would spare them the likes of Ex 10a, 10b, 13e, 15 and 17a as a starter - even I get queasy doing some of those! Maybe there is someone from the CAA who would care to enlighten us. So, do let me know the appropriate reference and I will certainly follow up your lead as I know several people who would love to come along for a flight. As I said in my last post - always willing to stand corrected!

Hope the above is of some use. Regards, H 'n' H
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