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Old 7th Oct 2004, 10:50
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silverknapper
 
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I agree with dirk. The given limit is without any technique.
As everyone says it's down to what you feel comfortable with, and if it feels bad on final, just chuck it away and try again.
Have a practice and see how you go.
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