hello all
Thanks for all the gen.The Defiant pics are excellent, sobering and well worth the visit. The bravery of all air-gunners is beyond question.Perhaps if the people who designed the Defiant's turret had been made to attempt to escape from it, in extremis, then ,maybe, the design might have been better. but, then, there are many other aircraft with awful escape characteristics.
regards
TDD
ps: the only fully-equipped turret that i have ever sat in, was on a Panhard armoured car, which had very little in the way of guidance for the ammunition and jams weren't unknown when firing at higher angles of elevation. the aircraft turrets that I have sat in have been deactivated, such as the turrets of the "Sally-B"