To FD, I guess sir that you are a CSA manegment pilot, and as such your views are more than a little slanted!!! Please tell this forum how many Ab Initio pilots where turned out to date, and what kind of flying they did in training, I think industry standard is way to vague. Lets tell the forum how a new hire with less than two hundred hours can in three years or less be up graded to an ATR captain with 2200 TT hours in his log book!!!! Do the math sir, he does not even qualify for the ICAO ATPL, thats a joke!!!!!, and sure as #$%$ not industry standard for a company that claims to be a European Legacy Carrier!!! If the company is so short staffed why dont they tap into the resources out there in the post 9-11 economy, namly losts of VERY experienced out of work pilots, and on file at PARK and others. I will tell the readers why, because the company does not want to pay the INDUSTRY STANDARD!!!! Hence the low level of experince, and animosity felt by guys like Honza, Lots of luck CSA pilots!!!!!!