Foxmouth, spot on
BEagle, so what?
I recently attended an instructor seminar were one of the QFI's (definately ex-mil) told us all that we should be teaching ppl students/holders to turn back after an efato!!! Even the highly trained, carefully selected pilots the RAF are lucky enough to teach, have killed themselves trying this very manoeuvre, what chance Mr 12 hours a year ppl?
Unanimously voted out by the (notQ)FI's.