Honey, this discussion is about Ryanair. Who ******* cares who you or I work for? But I tell you one thing, and that is that a decent employer offers a salary, a pension scheme, a LOL scheme and will provide you with a life through a fixed base / schedule. Futhermore, the employees will have the same working collective agreement so that no one is taken advantage of. I would never go work for an airline that pays absolutely nothing other than 60E a block hour and makes you spend your freetime positioning and looking for hotacs all over Europe. And remember, this is only NOW Honey, maybe 2-3 years from now a Ryanair pilot will be getting 30E an hour, because the Baltic and Eastern pilots will be knocking on the door, and MOL will be doing rally's in Slovakia, Czech Rep., Hungary, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia. This is a multinational company that will take advantage of this. They will pay an eastern European guy 30E to fly from London if they can. They dont care if he lives with 10 other guys in a mobile home just outside the fence in Stansted. But as long as pilots are selfish and paranoid, thinks that flying is equal to having fun, and think their salary is made out of flight hours and not Euros, the conditions will always be worse than most jobs.