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Old 15th Mar 2001, 21:09
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YouNeverStopLearning
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Wow!

I started this but I won't try to stop it.
I am both pleased to see that some people understand the issue and simultaneously frightened by some of the unprofessional comments.

This topic is about the current situation!

A few points:

1. Between controlled airspace and PIK's ATZ is all class G;

2. Like many airfields in the UK (Biggin Hill, Newcastle etc...) it has an ILS that extends into UK class G airspace, therefore, even at 18NM you are crossing an ILS approach BUT this is not illegal;

3. In UK class G airspace you are NOT required to have either radio or transponder;

4. See and avoid is the required primary method of collision avoidance in UK class G airspace unless a RIS or RAS is being provided to INDIVIDUAL aircraft;

5. Consider this- PIK's Radar is offline for maintenance on occasions. Oh, and it occasionally fails. What then .... cancel all IFR flights. I don't think so. Yet I am aware that these high speed descents have occurred during PROCEEDURAL approaches!

6. Radar is not perfect even when available;

7. Streamline: Did you pass AirLaw or get someone else to sit it for you?

8. JetPipe: I like the humour so here goes- Smooth landings number 1: 90% of a smooth landing is in the approach.
Anyone want to provide number 2?

Laws are usually for a good reason.