Woomera, I think that this thread has done its course. The rednecks are starting to go the knuckle (so to speak) and are trying to shout down the argument with abuse and innuendo.
Such abuse, if said in a pub or bbq would cause a fight I'm sure. It's uncalled for. S-T is a hell of a nice guy trying to argue his convictions using the facts as he knows them. He doesn't deserve the abuse because his opinions differ to others.
That said, I'm off to me bed.
DP