Night frighter - i am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are yours. if you trawl through the numerous threads that constantly appear on this forum about emerald, you will see that more people agree with me and my famous catchprase, than will you. If i worked for emerald, i might not want to leave if it were run in a manner that respected employees and nurtured a culture that would lead to a dedicated and commited workforce. So in that respect night frighter you are absolutely right - plenty more room for committed employees - if only people wanted to be. Are you ? i doubt it.