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Old 12th Aug 2004, 23:59
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Jelly Doughnut
 
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Cool

Just moving away from the heated and opinionated debate in here, and back to the original question:

126.9 you're spot on:

" The key is: entitled to be credited with not more than 50 per cent of the total flight time during which he or she acted as such.

That clearly say that an FO will be credited with 50% of his total FO time!"

Exactly... how else is one supposed to make up the required hours??? What about co-pilots who are lucky enough to join an airline with 200 hours... this is the only way they can eventually meet the 1500 hour requirement. See below, 61.01.16 (Crediting of flight time) Part 4 is crystal clear.

The idea that only 750 co-pilot hours may be counted is rubbish.. because this implies that the remainder has to be either all Dual (extremely unlikely) OR all P1 (which negates the 250 hour P1 requirement in Paragraph 61.07.2 (2), see below).

Slightly off topic, I seem to remember hearing that SAFAIR even had a CAA exemption, allowing co-pilots to obtain a provisional (but unfrozen) ATPL... because they only flew 400-500 hours per year (ie 200-250 towards ATP) it would take longer than 5 years to reach 1500 total.

Cheers
JD


copied from Freighboss's post:

61.07.2 An applicant for the issuing of a airline transport pilot licence (aeroplane) shall have completed not less than 1 500 hours of flight time, of which

ie 1500 total

(a) 250 hours shall be as pilot-in-command or not less than 100 hours as pilot-in-command and 150 hours as co-pilot performing, under the supervision of the pilot-in-command, the duties and functions of a pilot-in-command;

250 P1, 150 may be P1 under supervision

(b) 200 hours shall be cross-country flight time, of which not less than 100 hours shall be as pilot-in-command or as co-pilot performing, under the supervision of the pilot-in-command, the duties and functions of a pilot-in-command;

(c) 75 hours shall be instrument time, of which not more than 30 hours may be instrument ground time;

(d) 100 hours shall be night flight time as pilot-in-command or as co-pilot; and

(e) not more than 100 hours may be acquired in a simulator.

This has to be read together with:

Crediting of flight time 61.01.16_

(3) A commercial pilot or airline transport pilot shall be entitled to be credited with the total flight time during which he or she acted as pilot-in-command.

(4) A commercial pilot, when acting as co-pilot in an aircraft normally required to be operated with a co-pilot, shall be entitled to be credited with not more than 50 per cent of the total flight time during which he or she acted as such, towards the total flight time required for a higher grade pilot licence

... 50 per cent of the total flight time during which he or she acted as such...
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