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Old 11th August 2004 | 10:44
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panda-k-bear
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From: Canadia, the French bit
There's only one of us spouting "crap" here, as you so eloquently put it, but my beef is with the argument you put forward. Let's refrain from personal insult, shall we?

I was merely pointing out that the numbers you quoted weren't accurate. So please, tell me what these airlines paid and pray do tell how much the A380 really cost? Are you SURE the factory isn't included in the 10 billion (or whatever it was)? Or do you just personally doubt it? Where do I ever state that those airlines paid list price? But a 15% discount on 300 million means more cash in the coffers than a 15% discount on 200 million doesn't it? Which allows the development costs to be recouped quicker doesn't it? So where's the "crap" in that?

Is your bone of contention the fact that jobs are being taken away from U.S. citizens? Europeans don't have a right to have jobs in the aerospace industry, then?

Why was the Indianapolis Maintenance Center for United paid for by the state of Indiana? (and now lies empty...)

Why did Washington state give Boeing enormous tax breaks?

Why is Boeing looking for subsidy from the Japanese for the 7E7?

Why does the USAF attempt to order 100 767 tankers at above any price relative to the product at JUST the moment that Boeing is looking to launch the 7E7?

How level is the playing field now?
Now there's thread creep on a monumental scale.

Is there a market for the A380? Of course there is. How big is it? Well, quite big, actually. How big? Time will tell. Markets develop, shift and change, you know. And the example of Concorde is a very poor one, though apt in a lot of ways. There was an amount of scuppering there from certain factions on the other side of the Atlantic. This time the Europeans have got their act together to an extent where that really won't be allowed to happen again because Europe as a whole has too high a population for the U.S. to ignore - a trade war would hurt!
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