Lets not get too sexed up about all this, Jerrry.
It's a rumour network, after all. I'm not going to drag up a list of references, because, frankly, I just don't care that much.
But using your logic, you should be able to list certain references which clearly indicate that
VB isn't in 'No Man's Land'. Now I don't expect you to do that, because after all is said and done on PPrune, it's just opinions.
So there's mine. And yours appears to be the opposite. Now rather than just tell me (and others) that I'm wrong, tell me why. No references allowed!