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Old 9th Aug 2004, 15:32
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Cap 56
 
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Dropp the Pilot wrote:

The engine out procedure is something that the company requires to have in print to prove that an airplane may safely continue a take-off with one engine out. I would climb to 1500 ft and turn........

I think you do not realise were you would be after reaching 1500 ft.

If climb limited at 2.4 % it would take you around 10 Nm and another 8 Nm to reach the clean speed. That is 18 Nm from your runway and only 7 Nm from the aera covered by the MSA.

The only area that is really cheked for obstacles is the one checked and published by the performance department. Once you go outside that area you have to know dammed good what you are doing.

Proceeding to a holding pattern at 3000 ft is flying towards an area that is checked for obstacles and that gives you the time to get prepared for the approach in all safety.

Going on a walk at 1500 ft and 220 kts in an area of high MSA during split cockpit operations is sign of bad airmanship.

Dropp the Pilot wrote:

But to enter a hold on one engine and stagger up to 3000 just because the BLT tag line told you too, well - that\'s the kind of programmatical thinking that should disqualify people from command.
Getting away from obstacles and into an area of which you are certain is exactely what you achieve by going into a hold.

Thats what holds are made for, to get done what is needed in a safe area, before you go any further.
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