MOSTAFA - the first post, from dual driver is about demoing vortex ring and is clearly talking about incipient not fully developed - he just doesn't call it incipient.
I do miss MW, I had a lot of fun there and worked with some top blokes - I don't miss the hangovers from the Officers' to Sgts' mess visits!!! I am regularly at Wattisham checking the SAR flt there so I still get to see Lynx and Gazelle regularly - I got an hour in a Gaz recently and it was fabulous - very different from the Sea King!